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first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a guerrilla force. why? because they fade away when confronted. you have their mixed population as well. when you aim a warhead loaded with chemical weapons at a population, who are you really targeting? it could kill even your own supporters. we have these two main reasons. >> why do you suppose we have other countries -- germany says it's going to send in soldiers to neighboring turkey. why do you suppose there is such anxiety and such fear around that country and the possibility that that could happen? >> well, within the context of what turkey asked nato for, the patr
first, the two masters of the assad regime. iran and russia are against it. the regime of bashir aul awes youred would be taking huge risks if it started threatening the syrian population and surrounding countries with these types of weapons. also, there's a military reason why it would not necessarily make sense for bashir al assad to use chemical weapons. this, by the way, is the kind of analysis i've seen as well in other publications. chemical weapons would be difficult to deploy against a...
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plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of
plus, is al assad planning his escape. and encouragement from democrats that want hillary to run for president in 2016. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin this hour with the fiscal cliff. it's only a phone call, but it's the most notable movement we have seen. the tax hikes take effect in only 27 days. our senior congressional kor respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but...
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as you know, russia has blocked action against al assad at the u.n., but some have speculate that had moscow may be considering a different aprove. i mean, is russia stopping the u.s., do you think, from going into syria? >> i think the russians are beginning to realize that this problem simply cannot be ignored, and their passive stance on it simply doesn't provide for any constructive solution, so i hope that they will work with us on this, and i think the more international consensus we have on what is to be done, the less likely is the danger that the removal of the regime will result in the fragmentation of syria all together and regional conflicts erupting. that is the real danger, and that's what people should be concentrating on. >> you know, some have made the comparison that getting involved with syria or in syria is similar to us getting involved in libya and taking action against libya. do you see it that way? >> not quite. i supported strongly the position that the united states took on libya because there was an identifiable enemy, and there was also a real sign of an or
as you know, russia has blocked action against al assad at the u.n., but some have speculate that had moscow may be considering a different aprove. i mean, is russia stopping the u.s., do you think, from going into syria? >> i think the russians are beginning to realize that this problem simply cannot be ignored, and their passive stance on it simply doesn't provide for any constructive solution, so i hope that they will work with us on this, and i think the more international consensus...
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you can imagine a situation where the assad government picks a fight to widen the conflict. i don't know why they would do that but maybe they've come up with a theory that gives them a better shot at survival. maybe there's an intervention that freezes the regime in its current state. but dying regime with their back against the wall, those are unpredictable and dangerous regimes. i think all options are possible. i don't mean options on the table, but i mean there are a lot of different scene ae aeros could go baedly. it's more dangerous than the iranian situation right now. >> not good to hear. jim walsh, thank you for touching on all three of those top news stories for us. appreciate your insight this afternoon. we should add to the story as well that nato secretary-general says that the defensive missiles could be in place on the turk yishg syrian border in just weeks. in the meantime, the news out of syria from the opposition, 123 more people have been killed across syria so far just today. we're only midday. apparently 30 of them children in a refugee camp. americans
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is it possible at all that this man, this mad man, bashar al assad, is bluffing? >> oh, i don't think he's bluffing. we have to consider what he represents and that's a very small community, which feels under threat. it thinks it will be destroyed by sunni fundamentalists if it loses damascus or any other big cities. they have their backs to the wall. they say among themselves that when it comes to their lives or killing the rebels they will kill the rebels. in other words, yes, they will use the sarin, i've been dealing with the people for 30 years, they're almost a cult. what seems to us completely irrational decision, they're capable of. i don't know whether they have reached this point or not, but if things get bad enough in syria, i have no dowd they'll use it. >> on this sarin gas, i was reading about it, apparently there are two key components that make this gas and they're held separately, kept separately. you mix them together, it makes for a very potent formula. what kind of damage can sarin gas inflict? >> well, if it was artillery shell were dropped in
is it possible at all that this man, this mad man, bashar al assad, is bluffing? >> oh, i don't think he's bluffing. we have to consider what he represents and that's a very small community, which feels under threat. it thinks it will be destroyed by sunni fundamentalists if it loses damascus or any other big cities. they have their backs to the wall. they say among themselves that when it comes to their lives or killing the rebels they will kill the rebels. in other words, yes, they will...
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this as president obama warns syrian president bashar al assad that there will be serious consequences if he uses chemical weapons against his own weapon. >> this regime is a real problem for us. its alliance with iran, its possession of chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction. its human rights record, its support of terrorism. this is a regime we would like to get out of the way. we don't want to see it replaced with people we don't support either. >>> the syrian foreign ministry denies they have plans to use chemical weapons. >>> the family of jovan belcher is speaking publically for the first time since he fatally shot his girl friend and killed himself. belcher's sister and uncle stood by his aunt as she spoke outside the home where the football star lived with 22-year-old kasandra perkins and their 3-month-old daughter. >> we will cherish the wonderful memories we have of javon and pray those memory also bring us peace as we grapple to understand the unpredictable and tragic ending of his life and the life of kasandra perkins. >> kansas city police confirm that the gun used
this as president obama warns syrian president bashar al assad that there will be serious consequences if he uses chemical weapons against his own weapon. >> this regime is a real problem for us. its alliance with iran, its possession of chemical weapons, weapons of mass destruction. its human rights record, its support of terrorism. this is a regime we would like to get out of the way. we don't want to see it replaced with people we don't support either. >>> the syrian foreign...
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and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are the consequences of this disintegration are happening, most people look at any reason to get him out, get a new form of democratic constitution in, and then try and stabilize the situation. >> i'm going to make a very sharp turn to talk about something much more joyful, which is the news of the oil baby, whose birth is impending. we know that catherine is in the hospital now. what is the -- what's it like in, in london, in great britain, with this kind of news? people must just be going insane. >> well, you know, britain loves the royal family. so, and people are very happy, very joy
and really just send a signal to assad that this will only have one outcome. the important thing here is that is to show that in the end it is a matter of time. it's -- it's when and not if. now there are also, i think, signs that for russia and china, i think they would be prepared, possibly, to look at a way you could manage an outcome of this, so that you get some form of agreement that -- >> provide asylum, we're getting him out -- >> -- but for the rest of the world, such are...
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russia is teetering pulling away from assad. we need to start to influence rebels about, free syria army. even if assad leaves, russia and turkey are positioning themselves to have significant influence on a regime that will be after assad and it won't be an ally of the united states. melissa: thanks so much for coming on. please have a safe trip. we look forward to having back soon. >> absolutely. thanks, melissa. melissa: this is pretty crazy. look at this video. these are the chrysler employees that were caught red-handed drinking and smoking something on the job in 2010. 13 of them were fired. two were suspended without pay. well, now, they are all back at work. building your cars. thanks to a union-backed arbitrator. as you know, chrysler borrowed more than $11 billion as part of the auto industry bailout. that is what your tax dollars are spent on. how is it possible these guys are back on the job? joining me author of the state of the union, phil dine. thanks for coming back on. let's get right to it. how is it possible?
russia is teetering pulling away from assad. we need to start to influence rebels about, free syria army. even if assad leaves, russia and turkey are positioning themselves to have significant influence on a regime that will be after assad and it won't be an ally of the united states. melissa: thanks so much for coming on. please have a safe trip. we look forward to having back soon. >> absolutely. thanks, melissa. melissa: this is pretty crazy. look at this video. these are the chrysler...
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one thing they fear is that assad may try to expand the conflict. that is there are shells going into turkey, turkey has responded in kind. if you creato talkheh i don't say, off multifront war with forces in refugee spilling across into turkey. iran getting drawn into it more heavily than they are now. in this chaos this would allow the theory would go allow for assad to survive everybody longer in some corner of the country as the whole region starts to explode. that's one of the major fears of u.s. policymakers. >> rose: it it also feeds into this larger question in terms of sunni/shi'a within the arab world and you have -- not arab states like iran, a shiite country, and you've got qatar and saudi arabia and you've got turkey and other countries looking like there is a clear sunni presence coming together. >> that's right. my colleague had a very good analysis last week reporting on this and the big concern of course in recent years has been a shi'a crescent with iran and others. now it's looking more like you have a resurgent sunni movement her
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president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are not strong enough to defeat the syrian security forces in one battle. what we are seeing is an intense battle of attrition. most experts will tell you, his days are numbered. >> the big question on the international stage now, jonathan, will he use the chemical weapons at the last moment. >>jonathan: there are real concerns. a lot of people call him a cornered rat fighting to the death and therefore use every weapon in his arsenal. there are others, though, who think that assad is highly unlikely to do that, he has been wanted by everyone, including his allies, the russians, that it would be a gra
president bashar al-assad wants do and indeed has to hang on to the capital if he is to stay in power. there are many experts who believe either way, he has decided to fight to the death. either if he tries to flow he will be killed by his own supporters who will feel betrayed him him or ultimately he will be killed by the rebels. this, while it does seem to be the end days for the bashar al-assad regime, it could yet stretch on for some days or even weeks. that because the rebels simply are...
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whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to alliances of convenience with groups such as the pkk, the courtesy and working party. they've used the pkk in order to pressure turkey against interference in syria. but this relationship opens the door for future collaboration whereby the ukrainians could create various islands of influence with a number of militias. so you have in the coastal region with a 70 predominate essentially a 70% for iranian and russian support. since i've started thinking about these things, there have been developments there, too because the rebels have
whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to...
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the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >> woodruff: given that, again steve heydemann, how is the west looking at all this? >> it's happening very quickly. it's a matter of enormous concern. if the regime were to collapse in the absence of a political settlement, the potential for increased violence, the possibility that the opposition now is taking shape entirely is not yet ready to govern is seen as a very serious consideration in washington. however, the question of whether it would be possible for the u.s., for example, to accept a negotiated process in which assad himself were permitted to escape
the russian influence on assad is real but limited. there is another country which has more influence on assad and it is iran. the real dilemma for the russians would be if we say, okay, let's have this negotiation. let's have russia disabled but iran should be excluded. assad says, well, i am willing to be a part of the negotiations but not without iran. to accept the exclusion of iran would be a difficult concession for putin. my impression is that it is not quite there yet. >>...
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what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in the region. if the president believes we need to use force to secure the chemical weapons were stop them from being utilized to kill thousands more, we stand with them and i'm willing to do resolution on the floor of the senate, seeking congressional authorization to protect us against assad using chemical weapons against his own people and protecting us that it was necessary to military force. final thought, you can see this coming for a very long time. leading from behind is not working. saying you could do in iraq with a light footp
what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in...
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concerns that the assad repeople may be cooking up recipes, mixing materials for chemicals. that possible preparation is taking place at more than one chemical plant in syria, officials say. u.s. intelligence shows nothing has been moved out of the facilities, however. and officials say there is no indication syria is on the verge of using chemical we papoweapon. in turkey monday, russian president putin called the deploy ment of the patriot missiles unnecessary. but tuesday, the russian foreign minister said any use of chemical weapons has grave implications. while down playing reports about syria. >> translator: we can call them rumors, but the syrian authorities are moving a stockpile of chemical weapons or that they want to use them. as soon as we hear such messages, we prepare. >> reporter: secretary of state hillary clinton spent the day meeting with her fellow ministers as they approved a plan to provide turkey with the missiles. nato says the number of missiles and their precise location along the border still needs to be worked out. it could be weeks before the equi
concerns that the assad repeople may be cooking up recipes, mixing materials for chemicals. that possible preparation is taking place at more than one chemical plant in syria, officials say. u.s. intelligence shows nothing has been moved out of the facilities, however. and officials say there is no indication syria is on the verge of using chemical we papoweapon. in turkey monday, russian president putin called the deploy ment of the patriot missiles unnecessary. but tuesday, the russian...
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stockpiles as a matter of great concern and president obama has been warning of consequences if al assad makes what mr. obama calls the tragic mistake of using chemical weapons. former british prime minister tony blair voiced his concerns earlier on cnn. >> i mean now the death toll probably would be around 40,000, since this began, since a large number of people. but if there was any sense at all that assad was going to use chemical weapons or did use chemical weapons against his own people i expect a tough response that would be military. >> and nato is taking no chances by trying to protect one of its members, alliance expected to authorize deployment of operate out missiles to turkey's border with syria. i want to bring in cnn's ivan watson joining us istanbul in turkey. the turkish government asked for nato's help after the syrian government was shelling near the border and coming across inside turkey, one memorable occasion. do these missiles perhaps border tensions or the deterrent that nato claims? they're defense everybody not offensive? >> reporter: if you talk to the turkish g
stockpiles as a matter of great concern and president obama has been warning of consequences if al assad makes what mr. obama calls the tragic mistake of using chemical weapons. former british prime minister tony blair voiced his concerns earlier on cnn. >> i mean now the death toll probably would be around 40,000, since this began, since a large number of people. but if there was any sense at all that assad was going to use chemical weapons or did use chemical weapons against his own...
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utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines soldiers and so forth and we were to do in syria what we began to do in march of two thousand and three in iraq those people are absolutely right in fact i think it would be even worse than iraq i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a conflict that becomes regional and maybe even wider because we've got russia we've got china we've got other players
utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines...
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host: where is president assad at the moment? caller: we seldom see him. occasionally he will make a public appearance. by and large, i think he is invisible. he is not highly visible for someone who was made such a determined effort to stay in power, despite what is happened to his country. occasionally he will give an interview to the foreign press or even the national press. he is more visible in posters at this point. host: the "l.a. times" bureau chief joining us here in washington. you can'm wondering if provide an update on what is happening in tripoli from your vantage point. caller: i just spent a couple of days up there. it is the second set of web and on. -- city of lebanon. sunni muslims car the prevalent population and prevalent rebel group. there's been periodic combat there between sunni gunmen and people who are part of the sect. the resident, a think, 14 or 15 people killed. -- there has been, i think, 14 or 15 people killed. the has been battles up there. it feels like a mirror image of syria right now. host: are u.s. intelligence officia
host: where is president assad at the moment? caller: we seldom see him. occasionally he will make a public appearance. by and large, i think he is invisible. he is not highly visible for someone who was made such a determined effort to stay in power, despite what is happened to his country. occasionally he will give an interview to the foreign press or even the national press. he is more visible in posters at this point. host: the "l.a. times" bureau chief joining us here in...
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bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or gender. over the course of the past 20 months, the aside regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable -- assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, countless have been injured. refugees have surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon, and iraq, taxing the limits of those countries. assad's escalation of violence has reached a point where fighter jets have
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carefully it is more in tandem with the assad regime so that's a tension in itself and and given the fact that the second group was not invited to the newly built established syrian national coalition ok that that will prove tension in the future so i think you know they may be after some sort of autonomy or federalism but there is no there is no consensus within the syrian opposition groups actually they are they are against it as far as i understand at the moment so so we are looking for some sort of our tense situation as in maybe as in iraq between syrian kurds and syrian arab ok edward if i could go back to you it looks like the turks have really shot herself in the foot here i mean because kurds are part of the opposition in syria as well. it peter you ask a very interesting question and because that's really the party here with the most to lose you spoke about the kurds winning so we should keep in mind the party here we have. turkey. right to highlight this. turkey obviously looks at the kurdish problem with a great deal of anxiety and one could even ask oneself why ankara wo
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so when the president assad goes, in everybody accepts it is a question of when. the question is what happens next and many are predicting a blood bath will follow as all those competing groups try to gain the upper hand and get power in what will obviously be something of a power vacuum when assad goes. once again, it raises the question of those chemical weapons and who might control them after assad becomes a part of history, shep? >> shepard: jonathan hunt wrapping our coverage from the united nations. well, 28 days to go until tax cuts expire for most americans if president obama and congress can't cut a deal to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff. the president says the latest republic offer is out of balance because it extends tax cuts on income of above $250,000. g.o.p. leaders claim they can raise revenue without raising rates by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. but the white house says it's about the rates. ed henry is at the white house tonight. the president claims the republic math does not add up. >> that's right, shep. he met with the
so when the president assad goes, in everybody accepts it is a question of when. the question is what happens next and many are predicting a blood bath will follow as all those competing groups try to gain the upper hand and get power in what will obviously be something of a power vacuum when assad goes. once again, it raises the question of those chemical weapons and who might control them after assad becomes a part of history, shep? >> shepard: jonathan hunt wrapping our coverage from...
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regime now if all assad goes dare say that there will still be countless supporters of all assad and helped countless supporters of his regime and there will probably be massive bloodletting on both sides and that's what the international community is basically pushing itself towards right now i want to just briefly does the implications of what happens could happen inside syria what are the implications for the region as a whole well there is a continued growth of the so-called office trend that emerges from saudi arabia these religious conservative radicals who have in the first place a particular animosity towards women and it seems to me that whatever happens in syria internally this trend will continue to proliferated not least because there's not sufficient pressure on the saudi regime to stop it paint a grim picture it's very interesting to hear what you say thank you very much indeed live from new york author and historian general whom we appreciate you being on thank you. well there are reports of injuries in the egyptian capital karo where the present protesters have clashe
regime now if all assad goes dare say that there will still be countless supporters of all assad and helped countless supporters of his regime and there will probably be massive bloodletting on both sides and that's what the international community is basically pushing itself towards right now i want to just briefly does the implications of what happens could happen inside syria what are the implications for the region as a whole well there is a continued growth of the so-called office trend...
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they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their interests, their influence on the ground in syria, would be much better protected if they began to hedge their bets. whether or not they can work to actually facilitate assad's departure, or demise is another matter and whether they would be willing to work with us. the russians are tired, putin in particular, of watching the united states bring down its former clients, gadhafi in libya saddam and now the assad. so i think as a former great power, the russians read reality but i think will be cautious in wanting to create a kind of western or u.s. imposed solution in syria. >> thank you so much, aaron david miller. >> pleasure. >> and up next, fixing the debt. we will tea talk to former senator judd greg. that pink cas. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind a
they understand assad cannot -- syria, first of all, their ally, even if assad survives, which is unlikely, is never going to emerge in the same coherent, cohesive state, that the nation that they had supported these many years. they're, i think, beginning to understand that their assets, their interests, their influence on the ground in syria, would be much better protected if they began to hedge their bets. whether or not they can work to actually facilitate assad's departure, or demise is...
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you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said, america i, your president said i'm the axis of evil. another sheriff. we had another conversation. he thought that was the case. his personality was such that he was low key. we talked for a long period of time. we had to say we had to go. i said to him look. you're in a position to do something in the world, to bring peace. your father is dead, your brother was killed however he was killed, and now you have that relationship. we then talked about helping his people, how this could help his people to bring peace to the area if we could bri
you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said,...
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that information and every time receives reassurances that this is not the case and present bashar assad has said to himself many times that he's not planning such a scenario for his country chemical weapons will not be used however the secretary general of nato rasmussen says that even if this is the case even if series not intending to use chemical weapons against its own people still nato has the right to protect its ally turkey from any potential the threats that's becoming from the syrian border russian president vladimir putin visit to istanbul on monday where he said that's once again russia doesn't support bashar al assad or his regime but putting pressure on just one side of the conflict is not going to resolve it and it's a biased solution and sending patriots suits turkey is going to do exactly that is going to put pressure on president bashar al assad and not all the opposition groups in syria and what needs to be done really is all sides of the conflict should be. added negotiation table and discuss the future of the country without international interferences. inside syria
that information and every time receives reassurances that this is not the case and present bashar assad has said to himself many times that he's not planning such a scenario for his country chemical weapons will not be used however the secretary general of nato rasmussen says that even if this is the case even if series not intending to use chemical weapons against its own people still nato has the right to protect its ally turkey from any potential the threats that's becoming from the syrian...
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therefore if bashar al assad leaves power. in syria then. a part. of these twenty in fact for one another at the end of the day it's going to be the syrians are going to decide not britain france you know. now currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles of course up in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be deployed of course throughout the conflict in syria we've seen an increasingly fragmented opposition and so there is a lot of concern that the supply of any weaponry could well end up in the wrong hands nonetheless britain will be pushing ahead this week seeking that amendment. one is coming your way in day out as close to making a huge leap in medical progress as it develops an affordable music scene that could save lives that are more aftershocks gray. day starts at five am earlier in the winter tending to his flock of story hundred sheep in the mountains and plains of t.v. thirty five years old it wasn't the life he dreamt of having studied accounting but he just and familiar dictated that he
therefore if bashar al assad leaves power. in syria then. a part. of these twenty in fact for one another at the end of the day it's going to be the syrians are going to decide not britain france you know. now currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles of course up in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be deployed of course throughout the conflict in syria we've seen an increasingly fragmented opposition and so there is a lot of concern that...
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assad is the key link between the two of them. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also the core national security interests of the united states in the region. moreover this change would align with our values supporting the democratic process, the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people regardless of religion, ethnicity or gender. over the course of the last 20 months the assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country with the sole aim of remaining in power. just hearing in the last couple days, more urgently about weapons of mass destruction and what that could mean. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, cal was have been injured. refugees surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon and iraq taxing the limits of those cou
assad is the key link between the two of them. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also the core national security interests of the united states in the region. moreover this change would align with our values supporting the democratic process, the...
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to the arms embargo on syria making it easier to help the opponents the syrian president bashar al assad now a foreign office official has said that the practical support is like eating three training and non-lethal equipment britta want to play a role in syria after the other side regime falls because. they would like to be involved. so therefore. wants to back the winning side. never provide. the trouble. they can't identify eventually. which side with mission should you support. what will be the interests of the militia. here when they take power because the danger is there is new. leader of the opposition because twenty. therefore if. leave power. in syria the. part. in fact fight one another at the end of the day it's going to be the syrians are going to decide not britain france the united states now currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles of course up in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be supplied of course throughout the conflict in syria we've seen an increasingly fragmented opposition say there is a lot of concern that
to the arms embargo on syria making it easier to help the opponents the syrian president bashar al assad now a foreign office official has said that the practical support is like eating three training and non-lethal equipment britta want to play a role in syria after the other side regime falls because. they would like to be involved. so therefore. wants to back the winning side. never provide. the trouble. they can't identify eventually. which side with mission should you support. what will be...
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it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities to do that. because the truth is, we can monitor weapons, we can monitor movements of military forces, but the decision to use them or how to use them is something that often is a mystery to us. and sometimes because the protagonist himself doesn't know walt he is going to do. so i have -- i became very cautious and, again, it may have been one of the reasons i decided to leave, i became very cautious about the use of military force, because the consequences are so unpredictable. maybe it will be a small reaction, but maybe not. and then
it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities...
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utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a conflict that becomes regional and maybe even wider. just ahead for you disunited states reports on the ground the separatism sites and such that's already made up to a million people go in the section on the chin to. the recession with the brits at bases of a static as the government announces the extension of its cuts program tells a story much more of this will bring. wedge issues do just what their name implies they get between people and drive them apart like a wage and these issues seem to always take the forefront in the media it's things like abortion gun rights marijuana legalization and the w
utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a...
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therefore if bashar al assad leaves power. in syria the. part. in fact for one another for the end of the day is going to be the syrian. going to decide not britain from. now currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles of course up in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be supplied of course throughout the conflict in syria we've seen an increasingly fragmented opposition say there is a lot of concern that the supply of any weaponry kidwell end up in the wrong hands nonetheless person will be pushing ahead this week thinking that amendment. the headline grabbing story of britain's royal baby has taken a tragic twist a nurse who was fooled by a prank telephone call at the hospital where the pregnant duchess of cambridge was being treated for morning sickness has died in a suspected suicide it has a dog undertone to events some are suggesting had already reached a feverish level of media coverage archie's party boy call reports all of this taking place against a backdrop of intense media speculatio
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headed by bashar assad both. leaderships have committed atrocities against their own people none from their sect but through other sects remember in one thousand nine hundred two or. the father of the short of the former syrian president have executed more than fifty thousand people in how much you third largest city in syria. said the current that said the regime they are now playing a very dangerous game and the reports emerging from syria that he's gonna is preparing to use chemical weapons it's only indicative indication that bashar last night in his last days and this is his just have his his back to the wall and he's willing to commit any crime imaginable and unimaginable to remain in power but shuttle as must go there were initiatives presented on the table to have a person like farrukh ashara the former vice president and long term foreign minister to head it transitional administration in syria till they hold elections and they can transfer into a democratic phase this initiative we don't hear about it t
headed by bashar assad both. leaderships have committed atrocities against their own people none from their sect but through other sects remember in one thousand nine hundred two or. the father of the short of the former syrian president have executed more than fifty thousand people in how much you third largest city in syria. said the current that said the regime they are now playing a very dangerous game and the reports emerging from syria that he's gonna is preparing to use chemical weapons...
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united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasion in order to seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as the obama administration has done for the past 15 months, but refusing, still, to detail which consequences those would be. >> we will explore with like-minded countries what more we can do to bring the conflict to an end, but that will require the assad regime making the decision to participate in a political transition, ending the violence against its own people, and we hope that they do so because we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable, but it's a question of how many people will die until that day occurs. lou: the violence, and morsi protesters in the street, and l
united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasion in order to seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step...
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therefore if bashar al assad leaves power. from syria the. part. of these twenty. five one another for the end of the day is going to be the syrian . going to decide. from. that currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles of course up in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be supplied of course throughout the conflict in syria we see in an increasingly fragmented opposition and say there is a lot of concern that the supply of any weaponry could well end up in the wrong hands numb the last person will be pushing ahead this week seeking that amendment. well still ahead the tens of thousands of palestinians. in gaza. to keep up the resistance this means for the region and the world. the russian city of sochi is gearing up to host the next winter olympics with preparations now in full swing. in between the russian mainland japan and the island is the of minute on. who discovered it it is described as the pride of the region we'll take a look at what's in store for us here. until two thousand and four the island was par
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therefore if bashar al assad leaves power. from syria then fall apart. these twenty in fact fighting one another for power at the end of the day is going to be the syrian we're going to decide not britain france the united states now currently items such as body armor and night vision goggles a cool sub in that arms embargo and say the amendment would allow items like that to be supplied of course throughout the conflict in syria we've seen an increasingly fragmented opposition say there is a lot of concern that the supply of any weaponry could well end up in the wrong hands numb the last person will be pushing ahead this week seeking that amendment well coming up in the next part of the program hundreds of thousands of palestinians welcome home their. leader of hamas is on his first visit to gaza after years in exile calling on his supporters to keep up the resistance we ask what this means for the region and the world. plus the russian city of sochi is gearing up to host of the next winter olympics preparations now in full swing this and much more afte
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supporting the rebels is one thing though but putting spikes in assad's wills is another america's been demanding iraq surge as syria's bomb planes for weapons going so far as to call an aide to ground all passing jets but to washington's dismay baghdad hasn't been all that enthusiastic his marine of a ny reports. as the syrian government struggles to stay in power fighting against rebels backed by the west america is also attempting to suffocate the alleged weapons flying into damascus washington accuses iran of being the key arms supplier to assad forces and to stop the transfer the us is now reportedly demanding that baghdad inspect planes flying from iran over its airspace into syria and their american government unfortunately. very strong rule in many other countries this is just one more example amazing thing is that the american government is saying that they can control flights over countries and force. forces. by doing so the u.s. has created something of a paradox forcing iraq to prevent iran from dealing with syria by bringing up this issue of so-called weapons applied to jus
supporting the rebels is one thing though but putting spikes in assad's wills is another america's been demanding iraq surge as syria's bomb planes for weapons going so far as to call an aide to ground all passing jets but to washington's dismay baghdad hasn't been all that enthusiastic his marine of a ny reports. as the syrian government struggles to stay in power fighting against rebels backed by the west america is also attempting to suffocate the alleged weapons flying into damascus...